I know it’s not all Xians but the uniquely goofy American fundy set who do this, but I have to wonder WHY they try to do so much to "debunk" this theory.

Let’s recap:

The singularity theory was posited by a Jesuit priest.

The competing theory at the time was an unchanging eternal universe that needed no creator or cause – steady state theory.

The singularity/"big bang" theory met with initial scientific skepticism made somewhat more intense than usual for untested theories because they saw it as implying an act of creation. Of course once the radio waves and red shift came along, every respectable scientist started buying into it anyway.

While of course not suggesting or positing an external creator who launched this big bang, the theory at least allows room for one unlike steady state. There’s not a single peer-reviewed article that states that the theory is intended to, or can be used to, disprove claims of gods.

Nothing I know of in scripture (except highly speculative use of genealogies to determine age of creation) contradicts the theory or says how Yahweh did the creating. In fact "let there be light; and there was light" is a pretty good analogy if you’re into that sort of thing).

So Why then do the fundies not just say "Well the big bang stuff is fine as far as it goes, but we know our particular god flipped the switch!" ?

Only things I can think of are either the whole young earth stuff – decidedly dodgy exegesis even for theists – or confusing it with evolution/general anti-science attitude.

Thoughts?
Some interesting stuff so far but a few thoughts:

1) – I don’t think the theory DOES contradict anything said in the Bible. remember the 6000 yr old earth is based on some extremely convoluted and far from defnitive wranglings about how long a generation is. And even if you buy that, who’s to say that the big bang did not occur 6000 years ago, and that the speed of light was not changed by God to make it look far earlier?

2) The putative response of "God flipped the switch" is what i would expect a reasonably informed believer to say rather than a direct quote. Some do say things like this, but many fundies even when presented with the evidence, and the option of taking this position, continue to try to attack, in a silly way admittedly but still try, the theory itself. Examples can be seen on this site every day. I’m, sincerely, wondering why when an easy answer that does not in any way contradict their faith or the overwhelming evidence is that simple and available.

I started a line of Dead Sea skin care products 3 years ago. Despite all my efforts our sales are still low. I have a informative web site, I’ve posted every where on the net, I have a brochure I’ve mailed and emailed everywhere, I lost tons of money sending samples out. I’ve tried to recruit direct sales people as well as commission only business to business reps and I got no where. Is this just a failure business or what? I am working on a very small budget at this point and can’t afford a national ad campaign should I just quit or what?

I have lost 137lbs. With 42 more to go. My problem though the weight loss has been great for me I hate looking older with a turkey neck and sagging breast. I am too chicken at this point to have surgery even I could afford which I can not. Any suggestion? Thanks

hey guys, so here’s my dilemma, I’m 22 years old and I’ve never really taken the liberty of caring for my skin .. and a few days ago i realised that if i dont start looking after my skin then im going to age not so gracefully..

ive been researching products for skin care (i.e facial cleansers toners mosturisers) and also anti-aging products..

there are so many brands and they all seem good but i need advice and referrals from real people with real experiences…

my skin is in bad shape, i don’t drink water (like at all) and the only time my face is hydrated is when i have a shower twice a day… i tend to wash my face with shampoo or soap, i fair oily skin but dry in some areas i have HUGE pores in the area under my eyes, (which are not good for the self-esteem) … i have break outs and alot of blemishes along my cheeks and chin.

So my question is pretty much that, what brands are best to use in skin care also which brands are best to use for anti-aging…and not to forget my GINORMOUS pores

I have recently heard that we should avoid using face creams around the eyes and use an eye serum/cream for this specific area. Is this true or is it just a strategy to sell more eye and face anti-wrinkle products?
Thx.

I am abit worried that I am doing more harm than good, using different creams on my face. Do you need to use a day and night moisturiser and for my age, do I need anti aging that I have been using for a good while. I have fine lines in my cheeks and the usual crows feet and afew fine lines coming under my eyes. I have also noticed that the corners of my lips are starting to disappear abit, causing the corners of my mouth to droop slightly. I hope I havent done this damage with all these creams. I dont know if I just need a good lifting moisturiser or what. I need to use one good product and stick to it. I have been using Loreal revitalift day and night at the moment. I have also used Boots uplifting day and night but found that my skin was permantly greasy. Somedays I just use Boots hydrating moisturiser lotion which is nice on the skin. I am currently waiting for Arbonne anti aging. I am also permantly dark under my eyes. Nothing seems to work. causes white spots in corners of my eyes

I’m 15 and all my life I’ve been using soap and I think I’m missing out so much on my skin care already! Please tell me about cleansers and moisterizers and and makeup remover, which ones you use, and which products can clean throughly and gently! I’m really grateful I don’t even know the basics!

Since I’ve ben 15-ish I’ve been using Neutrogena and Olay for my skin.. (cleanser-toner-moisturiser) and I use moisturizers and their anti-wrinkle creams with an SPF 20 and above….I’m 20 now…and I still have no wrinkles or bags…and I’ve my parents age my mother who’s Cameroonian and Father a Congolese from RDC and they barely have bags or wrinkles and their skin regimen is quite simple…
I’d like to know…(my skin is very clear, has a nice glow..no spots) seeing that I Neutrogena and Olay work very well for me and that my parents in their 40’s and 50’s have skin that is fantastic…do you think I could continue to use my skin regimen, eat well, use spf and hope that I’ll inherit their good genes of awesome skin??

I have recently ordered Meaningless Beauty by Cindy Crawford.. thinkin’ I need upscale skin products only to hear HORRIBLE and ATROCIOUS reviews on the product….so I’m canceling my order…
I just don’t know if I should upgrade my products for more expensive ones…

Any help or advice???

im losing weight and developing a lot of sagging skin. iv hear that it helps with wrinkles will it help with with sagging skin too?

I already own three businesses but am selling one and going in another direction. I stumbled upon an ingredient for skin care that has some amazing properties. I was moving in the direction of anti-aging/wrinkle reduction when I tested it on four adults who just happened to have those cystic type of blemishes. It was more of a "Why not?" thing. Several hours later, the blemishes were almost gone! Quite a shock to all of us.

I now think that I should make this the primary purpose of the product but I need a chemist’s help with a formula for reasons I can’t disclose. From my research, I don’t see where this ingredient has ever been tested or produced for either purpose but as we know, blemishes are a major concern for a lot of people. Just the thought of helping them is exciting!

So how do I find a chemist? And what about the confidentiality aspect? None of my other businesses are in this field at all so I don’t have those kinds of contacts.

Thank you for any help!

and where do you get it and how much?

I have used Chanel skin care products for 8 years. For years, it worked wonders. I still don’t have any visible lines. And I don’t want to get any lines. I heard from a friend of my mother’s that I should change my skincare regimen every season or every year. I am wondering if there’s any reputable brand (except for Dr. Brandt, Clarins and Clinique) that will help my skin shine, become luminous, and prevent wrinkles from appearing.

I used them all, I feel like, and am very acne – prone. I have used the ones that say oil – free, hypo, etc non comedogenic, and they STILL break me out. I am almost thirty, and beginning to age, but still getting zits. It’s so awkward and I cannot control either problem without neglecting the other…

I am looking for a good skin care treatment to reduce wrinkles and my dark eye circles. Does anybody know of a good one out there? I have been searching but there are hundred of products
and they all claim to be excellent. Any suggestions?

Please let me know if anyone knows of a good doctor that will listen to symptoms and past history of chronic hives.

I got them in 1994 and they were in such a vicious cycle that they would not stop until I had a series of steroid injections and pills for one month. They would calm down and then slowly start up again in the legs and eventually spread everywhere. They are mostly in the legs and buttocks.

It seemed like I would get them when I had sinus infections paired up with stepping foot on a cold surface. Yes, cold floors set off the hives. Even pressure and touch when they were in overtime.

I had to write down all of my foods, and use a gentle baby soap with no smell made out of corn, I think. The laundry detergent was a no scent, anti-allergic baby laundry soap. Because I have migraines on the side, my food is pretty limited. No soy sauce, no aged cheese, no restaurants, no chocolate. So that is not an issue. I am reviewing the histamine-free diet now and will try to be more gluten-free. What the hay.

All of those medical records with no diagnosis except "hives" and treatment with steroids is in another country where I lived 17 years. The temperature year around was 85°F and it was typical to have marble floors so they were always icy cold. I always wore my thongs (new word-flip flops). My feet take a long time to get warm because I had frost bite at the age of 10. That is what makes me think I am not so intolerant to cold because if I went back to the Midwest over the holidays, it would take a long time for my feet to heat up and they would get red, itchy welts.

When I finally took an aggressive treatment for sinus infection in that country. Changed diet to present, and drank a natural yogurt daily, I did not have them for 3-4 years. The yogurt I drank was a natural form that I have not been able to find here in the U.S. It looks like white coral or a white head of cauliflower. Every day it had to be strained with a plastic sieve, to another glass, then pour sterilized water from a glass bowl, not metal to clean it, and then put it in a sterilized glass, fill up with milk, and put a cheese clothe with a rubber band to keep it clean and breath on the counter. The next day, the same process. That cauliflower looking stuff would grow and you could pinch it off and give to a neighbor for them to start their own. I have no idea how it gets started. That is the big secret. This yogurt was for people with stomach problems. After two months, I had no more symptoms of the hives. I was hive free.

We moved back to the states in 2006 and not until now do I have this again. The doctor in East Peoria told me to not use soap, do not use laundry soap, and make a diary of food. I explained to him that I have done that all before in the past and would like some other kinds of tests. I am back to square one and feel like crying. Of course I will follow those orders but I would just like to be tested properly.

This itch is so maddening and I am not a complainer but it really pulls me down. If you say you broke out again, the family is like, oh, okay. You cannot help but become insensitive about this because it gets old when it happens for years. I am not ready to go back to this itch and waste another 00 before some doctor decides to listen.

So, does anyone know of a good general physician in the Peoria area? I am on a network of doctors with the insurance and can even go anywhere in the state of Illinois. It would be nice to stay in this area where I live but I just want things ruled out.
Kefir Grains is that yogurt! Take time to "google it" because it is very beneficial to your system. It is intended for people with digestive problems.

I’m turning 40 next month and as all women my age, i’m scrutinizing every wrinkle and scowling at my crappy complexion. I have fairly light skin with the classic T zone and combination oily and dry skin. I’d like to get a good cleaning and anti-aging regimen going for 2009 and would like some advice on what are good products that are over the counter but not going to cost me a fortune (talking no more than per product) and what kind of regimen I should follow. Any advice is appreciated. I’ve done some research already but would like some other thoughts.

preferably something inexpensive, but i’m willing to pay more for a quality product. i’m still pretty young, but i’d like to start using some for preventative measures.
thanks!

The skin on my face is often very dry on my nose and on my cheeks and red. I have moderate to little acne, but really not too bad. How can i solve these skin problems without getting too gay on the skin-care products? The reason why i’m asking is because I get very embarresed with the dry skin because I can see flakes on my nose and I just want to change it.